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"THE SECRET OF STRANDHILL"
An ancient grave in Ireland reveals suprising secrets. Boone (Kevin Kilner) and Sandoval Von Flores) are sent to investigate..
Fans' comments - Major spoilers to follow
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Be sure to watch this week's "The Secret of Strandhill" its a good one.
We'll meet a female implant!
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Yes! LOVED IT! Lili poked Boone in the gut after being used by him. She
should have DECKED him! She is so cool when someone else is around and
shows the depths of her emotions when not in "public". The scene between
her and Doors was great. I hope that this is the "tip" of the "iceberg" that we will see from Lisa.
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Me, too!!! It'll be soooo nice to finally see some of Lili's background.
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It is fairly typical, IMHO, that shows don't start to build the number 2
character until the primary has been fully "fleshed out". For example, we
did not get into the depths of Nana Visitor's character on DS9 until the
second season. It is time for Lili's turn.
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And it's about time, too.
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This cast has not ensembled yet, and may not ever. The characters do not
"trust" each other. I look for strong individual performances to be the
norm for this show. This may be why many of my friends find EFC so hard to
watch. The "feel" of this show is unlike any of the others that they are
used to. It does not have the strong ensemble of Seinfeld. The camaraderie
of ER, or Brooklyn South is not as strong in EFC. It is an eclectic show.
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My favorite scene was in the bar when Lili was asking Boone if he was okay and
he tells her he can't get drunk. The implant won't let him. I loved her
reaction, Lili's probably thinking, "I oughta deck you."
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She SHOULD have decked him. She only gave him a jab in the stomach.
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Hmm... I didn't see her jab him, I thought she sort of grabbed his
shoulders and gave it a push. I'll have to watch that again. :-)
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Although, she should have realized that Boone would not have put her up as
a "prize" {and we know what THAT means} if there was a chance of losing.
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I don't trust Boone to.
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Covert ops agree upon a strategy before entering a situation. He should
have given her a wink of assurance. She should have followed his lead.
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He gave her no indication whatsoever.
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That's my favorite scene too! Did you see that look on Lili's face when
Boone told her he can't get drunk?! Wow! I think Lisa finally have a chance
to show what she can do!!! She was awesome!!
"May your mother wear Amy boots?" That was so funny! It was good to see KK
lighten up a bit.
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Well, I'm kinda running out of different ways of saying "Hey WOW! Cool
episode!" They just keep peeling away more layers, don't they? The thing
I really love about this show is that it keeps you guessing as to the
Taelons' intentions, whereas in "V" we learned in short order that the
Visitors weren't our pals.
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I don't remember much about "V" but I do agree that this show does keep you
guessing and wanting to come back for more. AND, it keeps getting better.
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I love this show for the discovery factor. I fear that there IS an end to
the story line. I don't want this to go away.
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"Strandhill" was extremely well written! Some really great lines!
Here's one I love, Beckett - "Campions protector are blessed with gifts that make a woman's life more enlightening." I absolutely loved Lili's reaction to that!!
Now WHAT does she mean by *enlightening?"
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Heightened senses, enhanced memory, boosted cognitive powers. Just imagine
a sense of touch so sensitive that you could feel each surface on every grain of sand on the beach. Vision so acute that you can count the leaves of a tree at 100 meters. Then what about the sense of smell? WOW!
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Ah.. but I thought that was the *gifts* in general, both men and women. I
thought maybe she meant something else.
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While the same "gifts" are given to both sexes, women will appreciate
different aspects to a differing degree than then men will. Look at how the
sexes differ in the appreciation of the "gifts" they were born with.
Beckett is in full control of herself and her self confidence oozes, nay
streams, from every pore.
Maybe she did mean something else. It is hard to tell with this show. Keeps
you guessing.
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Gee, sounds like something out of 'The Sentinel'. No wonder implants have
their sex drive removed. Think of what a heightened sense of touch could
do during love-making!!
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Yes, that IS the point. Notice that Beckett did not have her "flirt" drive
removed. Aren't the endorphins produced by things like the "joy of success"
nearly identical to the endorphins produced by sexual anticipation?
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Oh, here's another. Beckett (again! they need to write some great lines for
Lili!!) "I've always wondered whether the CVI program will overide the male
ego, but you just answered that question."
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I also really love the production values: The mosaic that was unearthed
in the Celtic cemetery was phenomenal! Yet another thing I love is when
a science fiction project actually pays attention to the science: The
device that was used to shatter the stone covering the tomb is something
I could actually foresee being produced in the near future, since using
harmonics (sympathetic vibrations) to break down the rock would be a
very useful mining tool. I wouldn't be at all surprised if someone's
actually working on that.
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Yes, but I noticed that O'Malley was carrying this little flashlight leading the whole group of people into that cave. Was that realistic? I mean, for safety reasons, then once inside, it seems so bright from just that one little flashlight?
Also, how realistic was the fact that the tremor was caused by them blasting for a new highway?
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The scene where Sandoval asks if Beckett is proficient in the use
of her scrill, and she replies with a blast to his face at the absolute
lowest power level! Classic!
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That was, that was! I loved that too! Anyone noticed something between
Sandoval and Beckett? I hope to see Beckett back, great character and I
think the actress did a good job! Goddenport? What do you think about
*your* Sandy and Lt. Beckett?
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Well, I think Beckett's lucky...for taking *my* Sandy.....:::growls::::::I
need some luck, too. If Sandoval keeps running into these girlfriends, someday
he's gonna be mine!!!! Bwa ha ha haaaaaa!!!!!
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It's like the comparison of piety between monks. Amusing for a while. Lust
for success is lust just the same. Can implants lust after perfection of
service? Is that not a distraction from true service? (Oops. I begin to
sound like a Companion.)
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Yes, you sound like a Companion, and you lost me there.
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It is a competition. Hanging around priests and ministers during my younger
years gave me a view to things most are not aware of. Just as athletes
compete, other "occupations" compete between co-workers. I have seen
waiters and waitresses compete to see who can give the best service. Monks
sometimes compete to see who can be the most pious. "I have fasted for ten
days now and pray fourteen hours every day", says Friar Chicken. "Well I
have fasted for twenty days, and pray thirty hours a day.", replied Father
Time. "How can you do that? There are only 24 hours in a day!" "With God's
help, my son." Such competition becomes the object of focus rather than the
service that was intended.
The Protectors are still human. They make mistakes. They could be lead to a
competition among themselves that would distract them from serving the
Companions. (Ooh, is this possibly the nucleus of a story line. Hey,
writers, here, take it.) Grrr. Still, I was willing to give them dramatic license for once. All of this would have been unknown to the producers a year ago, and is
still unknown to most people today. The most puzzling omision religiously was that of Jove, the head of the Roman
Pantheon of gods. Roman culture was at that time much wider spread than that
of Christianity or Judaism.
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Now, did I miss something? Did they explain why the Talons shouldn't come to
earth? I don't think so.
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I don't think so either. Anyone else noticed anything different?
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No. They did NOT state the reason not to come. One condition was that
humans had the potential to become like the Taelons. They should not come
here if that were true. The reason behind that was not even hinted at.
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Some disease probably killed the first guy, and he/she looked a lot like Da'an. I'm thinking that the Talons are going to be exposed to something that earthlings can live through with the right vaccine, but the Talons can't. I'm guessing the whole Native-American disaster when the Europeans brought all their neat little viruses here and indigenous people weren't immune to the stuff, something like that.
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Orson Wells, where are you? EFC as a "War of the Worlds" remake? Hardly. At
least, I hope not.
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My first reaction when I heard '2000 years' was that the Taelons are
immortals!! :-)
I don't know what I was expecting them to be prior to this. Maybe you all
had expect them to be immortals all along.
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The Ephemera (fruit flies) live a few days, some bacteria live for several
weeks, some sea turtles live 200 years or more. The variation of life spans
on THIS planet may only be an indication of what could be natural on other
worlds. Immortal indicates "undying". In "Live Free or Die", Da'an was in
the act of dying, or passing to the next level, or whatever. The Taelons
can die and are well aquatinted with death. They expected (substitute the
name of the Taelon in the grave) to be DEAD when the grave was found. There
was some indication that they "hoped" he was still alive. So living for
2000 years is possible for them. They are long lived, but not immortal in
the HL sense. Duncan is "unnaturally" long lived and does not have
bodyguards. The Taelons need, or want, a security force.
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Okay, I get your point. But hey... even immortal Duncan *can* die. The head
thing, remember?
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The flashback with Sandavol and his wife, was that from "Sandavol's Run" that
I missed? I was glad to get a little insight.
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Yes, that was from "Sandoval's Run." It really was a good episode. So far
this season, I'd say "Horizon Zero" is my favorite, follow closely by
"Strandhill" then its "Sandoval's Run."
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I'm going to be majoring in history in the fall and of course my intrest piqeud when Lili was pointing out the religious figures on the mosiac. Now, whoever designed this mosaic needed to do his or her homework. In order for the mosiac to be historically correct, it would have to be built 1000 years after Boone
and Lili say it was. While looking at the tomb, Lili points out three
major religious figures: Jesus, Buddha, and Moses. However, the Irish
at this point in time had no knowledge of either of these figures.
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This bothered me, too, since they said that this was the only Taelon on
the planet...yet they had intimate knowledge of Buddha all the way over in
India/China. The Jesus stuff bothered me too, due to the time line
questions.
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I agree that MOST of the Irish would not have had this knowledge.
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Jesus and Moses -- Now, this is what, the year 2005? According to Lili,
the mosiac was built over 2,000 years ago. If it was, then nobody had
any knowledge of Jesus in Ireland.
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St. Augustine converted England in the late 700's AD. The Romans had a
sort of "hands-off" policy when it came to converting their far-flung
provinces, and they never really had control of anything north of
Lincolnshire. The Romans did not embrace Christianity until about 200 AD
anyway, and Constantine didn't convert the whole empire until 395 or so.
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Sorry to quibble, but Roman control extended a long way north of
Lincolnshire. All of what is now England was Roman as well as some of
southern Scotland (at least for a while). For example, Eboracum (York) was
a major city at the time. Christianity was originally introduced into
Britannia around the fourth century but the later Germanic invasions
(Angles, Saxons and Jutes) pretty much paganised Britain for a couple of
centuries.
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It is known that the people in this time were torn between Christianity
and Paganism, but they were (in my opinion) most likely more pagan than
History gives them credit. THink about. Pretty much the only people that
could write where monks that lived in monastaries. Since their written
vocabulary was so limited they would have used mostly Christian words.
Since most of what we know of them is taken from epics of the time, it
skews what we know of them. But hey, we'll never know if I'm right,
because we weren't there.
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History is always written by the winners, at least as far as we know.
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Yes, and the _Anglo-Saxon Chronicle_ surely would not glorify the Pagans!!
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We can safely assume that the mosaic was built before the birth of Jesus, which means nobody at all would have any knowledge of him. So how would he had appeared on the mosaic if he wasn't even born? Moses had long lived and died by then, but Christianity did not reach England or Ireland until the the conquest of the Romans, about 100 years later. Again, this would had been after the construction of the mosaic.
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There is not a clear indication of the time line of this show. It can't be
to far in the future. The MCI logo is on the Global Links and computer
terminals. World Com is on track to buy out MCI. Leaks out of World Com HQ
says that the data arm of MCI will be moved to UseNet and that the
telecommunications (long distance) will be merged into LDDS. The MCI logo
will be gone by 2002 or 2003 at the latest.
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When they said it was built about 2,000 years ago, I took it to mean give or
take a hundred years or so. Therefore, it is possible that it was built "about" 2,000 years before EFC's time frame. Although Christianity wasn't
much more than a small offshoot of Judaism untill at least a couple hundred
years after his death. And it wasn't untill much later that it was viewed as
a major religion.
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Ma'el would have been a local "hero", true. Armed with Taelon technology,
he would have been able to travel all over the world. He would have had the
knowledge.
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Buddha -- Yes, Buddha did live and die before the mosiac was created,
but little or no contact was made with the Far East where Buddhism was
originated until the 1200's. So, again, how could it be on the mosaic?
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Ma'el seems to be the black sheep of the Taelons, at least in the later
part of his life. He would have likely been the story teller to the locals.
After his death, it would be natural for the locals to have decorated his
grave with the thing that Ma'el talked about.
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I agree, for those figures to be on the mosaic, Ma'el must have told them.
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Irish deities would be the most likely forms to appear on the original
mosiac. Once again, television has tried to simply history to the
common viewers and has totally screwed it up. It's a sad, sad, sad
thing indeed.
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But they mentioned sometime near the beginning about some local Irish god. I
forget exactly what they said about him but they mentioned silver somthing. I
took the top guy (the guy that looks like the Taelons in their energy state)
to be the Irish god they mentioned (who also apears to be a Taelon).
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Unless Ma'el was Jesus, Buddha, and Moses. I hope that this show does not
go down that road! Also of note that Islam was left out as was Hindu.
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Re: the ommision of Islam and Hindu.
Hindu was not left off. Shiva was one of the 5 religious figures depicted
(Moses, Christ, Buddah, Shiva and the local Irish silver dude). And it would
have been anachronistic to have Islam on there since Islam is a more recent
religion than Christianity.
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Ok...Overall an interesting episode. I liked seeing the female implant.
She and Sandy had a lot of chemistry. Boone was as "woody" as ever.
But I did like the scene in the bar where he offered to trade Lili for
information. The look on Lili's/Lisa's face was priceless. I found
that scene amusing.
Like Megs the mosaic bothered me. Not only was it historically
inaccurate but, I really don't want them to get into a situation where
they make it like the visiting Taelon was God. That bothered me.
Anyway, Lisa turned in an excellent performance as always, I just want
to see her with a larger role!
The End...
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